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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby AmidstStorm on Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:57 pm

t0nedude wrote:You must be out of your puny minds. I was so disgusted after only reading a few lines and found two, yes 2! inaccuracies in that time. Here are 3 FACTS just for your info: FACT: The Spectrum has a much more powerful processor than the C64, it is better at 3d games because of it (and yet in the article you state the C64 is more powerful which is impossible to quantify). FACT: The Spectrum can load games nearly 4 times faster than the 64 due to a much higher baud rate (In the article the dopey journo refered to the C64 tape loading to be easier). FACT: The Spectrum has more usable RAM than the C64 (41k v 39k) (I've seen you refer to the C64 as having 64k so many times it isn't funny). You can get most of these off the 'net, it isn't difficult.
Yes because everything you read on the internet is 100% accurate isn't it? :roll:
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby nakamura on Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:28 pm

Why does he keep talking about the Federation Against Copyright Theft?
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby FatTrucker on Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:40 pm

If he found an innocuous definitive that offensive, I think the world might just stop turning altogether when he tries to sell anything on the vagabond ridden, shitefest that is ebay.
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby simes on Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:20 am

t0nedude wrote:I've cancelled my subscription (should have done it ages ago with your badly researched articles and bullshit). Expect your magazines to be appearing on Ebay in the near future.

Tony.


Can you post the link to your ebay listings please?! I'm missing a few back issues! ;)
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby TwoHeadedBoy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:43 pm

Hope they do a Mega Drive vs. SNES thingy in the future, I feel like having a good rant :D
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby MikeFishcake on Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:22 pm

Oh it's all gone quiet over there...
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby the_hawk on Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:56 pm

MikeFishcake wrote:Oh it's all gone quiet over there...


Probably didn't have the nerve.
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby simes on Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:15 pm

I'm disappointed... I really wanted to buy those mags. :(
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby pantal00ns on Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:41 am

MikeFishcake wrote:Oh it's all gone quiet over there...


Maybe t0nedude is now t0nedeaf?
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby PubZombie on Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:27 pm

I think most of us miss the point when it comes to these old debates and journalism.
I think the article was a great bit of journalism and does what it should - it gets its readership thinking and debating. Even old issues like our playground flame wars change as we change and the world around us changes. That's because journalism and debates are theory and opinion based around a simple set of minute factoids - like memory size, or tape loading methods etc etc. The article was meant to colour debate and get us thinking - and it has.
Looking back on the old days I was a C64 owner-fanboy. But I would be worried if i still held the same opinions as i did when i was 12. The C64 was great but my fave ever game was on a zx48. I own several Amigas but my favourite machine to emulate is the Atari ST.
The OP is probably off somewhere talking in Klingon now.
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby simes on Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:58 pm

PubZombie wrote:I think most of us miss the point when it comes to these old debates and journalism.
I think the article was a great bit of journalism and does what it should - it gets its readership thinking and debating. Even old issues like our playground flame wars change as we change and the world around us changes. That's because journalism and debates are theory and opinion based around a simple set of minute factoids - like memory size, or tape loading methods etc etc. The article was meant to colour debate and get us thinking - and it has.
Looking back on the old days I was a C64 owner-fanboy. But I would be worried if i still held the same opinions as i did when i was 12. The C64 was great but my fave ever game was on a zx48. I own several Amigas but my favourite machine to emulate is the Atari ST.
The OP is probably off somewhere talking in Klingon now.


Absolutely! I was a massive Amiga fanboy back in the 90s and loved the Pinball Dreams / Fantasties / Illusions series and wasn't too impressed with anything else, but even though I still play them (albeit mainly the conversion on the PSP) my favourite home pinball game now has got to be Marvel Pinball on the PS3 and even though I have got a soft spot for the Amiga still, I know there are games out there that I'd rather play on other machines. When I got my first Playstation at the same time as buying the Amiga Technologies edition of the Amiga 1200, my gaming habits moved more over to consoles because the Amiga just didn't cut it any more.
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby PubZombie on Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:51 pm

simes wrote:
PubZombie wrote:I think most of us miss the point when it comes to these old debates and journalism.
I think the article was a great bit of journalism and does what it should - it gets its readership thinking and debating. Even old issues like our playground flame wars change as we change and the world around us changes. That's because journalism and debates are theory and opinion based around a simple set of minute factoids - like memory size, or tape loading methods etc etc. The article was meant to colour debate and get us thinking - and it has.
Looking back on the old days I was a C64 owner-fanboy. But I would be worried if i still held the same opinions as i did when i was 12. The C64 was great but my fave ever game was on a zx48. I own several Amigas but my favourite machine to emulate is the Atari ST.
The OP is probably off somewhere talking in Klingon now.


Absolutely! I was a massive Amiga fanboy back in the 90s and loved the Pinball Dreams / Fantasties / Illusions series and wasn't too impressed with anything else, but even though I still play them (albeit mainly the conversion on the PSP) my favourite home pinball game now has got to be Marvel Pinball on the PS3 and even though I have got a soft spot for the Amiga still, I know there are games out there that I'd rather play on other machines. When I got my first Playstation at the same time as buying the Amiga Technologies edition of the Amiga 1200, my gaming habits moved more over to consoles because the Amiga just didn't cut it any more.


Exactly our tastes and preferences should change. Retro has the power to do strange things to us and if we aren't careful we can easily say things that cause arguments and offend others - I think that is because we are very much coloured in our opinions by that strange thing called nostalgia; the past was not often what we remember it to be, but what we think it should be to us now. I can't remember if it was the historian EH Car or A Marwick who said oral reminiscents is "old men drooling about their youth." He was trying to be controversial, but has a point - nostalgia blinds us to our own reasoning. When I think of retro and modern games now I try to but things in a different perspective. I try to imagine what the me back in the playground would have thought of the games of today. I remember my mates and I wishing we had more realistic looking games and imagining how brilliant games could be in 25 years time. Largely that has happened the games we have are fantastically advanced; design sensibilities have moved on to create games as a major hobby and even a sport we can all partake in. Yes we have a cynical AAA publishing scene but even they produce the odd gem; retro is still there for devs to learn and draw on, and they do, and retro is there for those who want to play it.
Progress happens like it or not so we are best embracing it and simply enjoying our forays into the halcyon days of gaming past for what it should be - fun.
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby RetroBob on Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:19 pm

I finally got around to reading this article today and as a complete neutral (never had either, I was a console lad) I thought the case put forward for all was balanced; so anyway I enjoyed it, even if I did already know the final outcome.
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby GarryG on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:52 pm

Well I had a Spekie back-in-the-day and I didn't find anything offensive in the article. I read the title with a smile on my face and took the peice for what it was... someones opinion. And at least it wasn't totaly based on hardware 'FACTS' :D
Although the flames weren't totally unexpected. Whaterer the otcome there are always those who would strongly disagree with it. :lol:

Anyway, the VIC-20 is obvioulsy better put together than both ;)
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Re: RG You've got some nerve.

Postby The Hardest of All Freds on Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:07 pm

t0nedude wrote:You must be out of your puny minds.


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