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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby DreamcastRIP on Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:21 am

steve82 wrote:Most of the people with PS VITAS only seem to be interested in when they will be able to play PS1 games on it...

How are you so certain of this?
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby ShadowMan on Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:33 am

steve82 wrote:Most of the people with PS VITAS only seem to be interested in when they will be able to play PS1 games on it. Never mind next generation handheld games console games from 15 years ago are more important


That's news to me. Ive no interest in playing Psone games on mine, I'm personally interested in Sony and other companies releasing more original games like gravity rush (and sega releasing a vita yakuza game)
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby nakamura on Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:10 am

Backwards compatibility certainly sweetens the deal but it not a system seller. I would say most people with the Vita want some nice Vita games to go with their expensive new console.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby sscott on Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:07 am

nakamura wrote:Backwards compatibility certainly sweetens the deal but it not a system seller. I would say most people with the Vita want some nice Vita games to go with their expensive new console.

Yeah, what is it with people buying a new machine and then worrying about backwards compatibility before trying to see what the thing has to offer? I'm playing my Vita a bit (on the train to work normally) but will have to see what this Gravity Rush game is like. Despite being a big Resistance series fan I'm not particularly interested in the Burning Skies game (at least not at full price).
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby retrosofer on Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:59 pm

I'd like a Vita, but there isn't any software on there for me (bar Uncharted) at the moment to justify paying the price tag for one, when the system is plush with games that i really want to play, i might get one, also the whole memory card thing puts me off to. I'd say some are probably holding off for the same reasons, a price drop, more games, maybe a price drop on the momory cards or somthing.

I nearly got a 3DS last week, but instead went for a DSI XL instead, reason being i'm sure the handheld is going to get a redesign at some point, maybe with a second analog, but we'll see on that, but i'd rather hold out, wait for library of games to build up, and see what the redesign brings. I wear glasses, so i'd like to see the 3DS get bigger screens personally, which is why i went for the XL, but i'd rather wait and see what Nintendo brings.

Personally i like both systems, and hope both Sony & Nintendo have great lasting success with them, but i resign to hold off for reasons stated above, the games are what will really sway me in the end when it comes to the crunch.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Freestyler on Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:43 pm

Down to £170 in CeX and two ton off Amazon. Hmm.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby The Laird on Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:17 pm

Freestyler wrote:Down to £170 in CeX and two ton off Amazon. Hmm.


I walked past my local CeX the other day and they had 5 Vita's in the window!!!!
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Rayne on Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:34 pm

I maintain the Vita is the best portable games machine I have ever spent my money on, it's almost like an Apple product in that once you pick it up, you don't want to put it down (regardless of whether or not you have something to play on it!)

Shame it's lacking in software right now...here's hoping E3 brings about some positivity!

In stark contrast, the 3DS has really turned its game around, now offering a really nice selection of thoroughly 'Decent' 3rd party games. Nothing AAA standard but plenty of titles I can get for a tenner and play for a weekend.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby GameOverYeah on Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:23 am

I completely agree, I think its up there (at the moment) with one of the best consoles I've ever brought in terms of value for money. I have a massive stack of games in my 'to play' pile for every different system. I have completed or spent a great deal of time with almost all of the games I've brought for it.

I do think it needs a fresh round of games to drum up interest but I am sick of people complaining about the lack of games on it. It had the strongest launch line up of any console I can think of and it really does have a strong catalogue of games, there aren't that many stinkers on there. Sure I guess on most of the games you can play on home console or get a similar experience, but remember its still early days and I genuinely think on a software side its better than the 3DS was at the same point in its life cycle.

The Vita is going to need time to build up but I think it is a better investment than the 3DS at the moment. It has a strong western support and I seriously doubt there will be a redesign for the next few years. I also fully expect there to be alot of games announced at E3 which will be added to the already announce pile. Its just a shame so many people (journalists included) have jumped on the doom and gloom outlook for the Vita during a dry spell in releases ALL consoles go through after launch.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Freestyler on Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:16 am

Ok, Amazon are doing a 4gb Vita card for £12.99.

Apparently one of the user reviews says that Uncharted only uses a 64mb save slot, and most extra stuff can be saved to the cloud online? The "main" reason for needing a fatter card is if you download (and store) demo's at about 1gb a pop. That's not something I'd do, as on the Xbox I usually buy it if I like it (and delete the demo) or just delete the demo immediately if it fails to grip me.

The price is still a little tasty for what you actually get (a regular 4gb card is only £3.50 on the same site) but I'm feeling a little more well disposed to the Vita if I know I don't need a seventy quid card to make the damn thing viable.

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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby sscott on Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:28 am

I have an 8GB card which I reckon should be fine for a while.
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Vita specific:
- Everybody's Golf
- Mod Nation Racers
- Super Stardust
- Top Darts
- Motorstorm RC
- Hustle Kings
- Escape Plan
- Tales From Space: When Mutant Blobs Attack
- Fireworks
- Frobisher Says
- The Treasures of Montezuma Blitz


- Metal Slug XX (PSP)
- Street Fighter Alpha 3 (PSP)
- God of War: Chains of Olympus (PSP)

- TOM Blitz (PSP Mini)
- Jewell Keepers (PSP Mini)
- One Epic Game (PSP Mini)
- Angry Birds (PSP Mini)

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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby pratty on Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:49 am

GameOverYeah wrote:I do think it needs a fresh round of games to drum up interest but I am sick of people complaining about the lack of games on it. It had the strongest launch line up of any console I can think of and it really does have a strong catalogue of games, there aren't that many stinkers on there. Sure I guess on most of the games you can play on home console or get a similar experience, but remember its still early days and I genuinely think on a software side its better than the 3DS was at the same point in its life cycle.


I wouldn't say i'm sick of it becuase I just don't care enough to be. But it is an example of something I've noticed, which is a lot of people's insatiable thirst for games, something which I don't think Sony or Nintendo understand yet.

A lot of people burn through and get bored of games very quickly these days. People are done with the launch games already, hence the complaint the Vita doesn't have any games. Of course the Vita has games, some people are just choosing not to play them anymore, if they ever did.

I understand the argument that the games are too similar to console games so the Vita is currently obsolete to them, but Vita owners are still talking about the lack of games to justify their purchase. A game like Gravity Rush seems just the ticket, it's exclusive and a new IP. The problem is I reckon most people will burn through it in a few days and will be back to where they started.

To me it looks like the Vita has plenty going on, you have games like Uncharted, Disgea, Resistance, Rayman, Unit 13, Ninja Gaiden and Dynasty Warriors to sink your teeth into at home. On the move you have Fifa, Virtua Tennis, Wipeout, Everybody's Golf, Modnation Racers, Blaze BLue, Mortal Kombat, MvsC3, Escape Plan, Little Deviants etc to pick up and play for a quick game. Obviously not all those games will appeal to everyone but it you only need a few to keep you busy, espeically if you own other systems.

To be honest I'm a little bit spoiled myslef, I wish I could go back to the days when I only had about a dozen games on a system, and so just played the hell out of them and was satisifed for months before I felt the need to pick up a new game. Not only is patience a virtue but it's also easier on the wallet if nothing else.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby nakamura on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:34 am

GameOverYeah wrote:
I do think it needs a fresh round of games to drum up interest but I am sick of people complaining about the lack of games on it. It had the strongest launch line up of any console I can think of and it really does have a strong catalogue of games


No, I don't agree with this nonsense for a second.

The Vita has the most recycled lineup of launch games ever. Wipeout and RIdge Racer were out on PSP in 2004 and are still better games, both were far more impressive for the time and have aged well. Lumines and Virtua Tennis are also totally recycled, Virtua Tennis hasn't improved in over 10 years! Factor in a hell of a lot of ports and frankly it is one of the most uninspiring launch lineups I have ever seen.

Don't get me wrong, the 3DS was little different but the Vita was a carbon copy of the PSP which made me go from wanting one to not caring at all.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Nemesis on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:45 am

nakamura wrote:
GameOverYeah wrote:
I do think it needs a fresh round of games to drum up interest but I am sick of people complaining about the lack of games on it. It had the strongest launch line up of any console I can think of and it really does have a strong catalogue of games


No, I don't agree with this nonsense for a second.

The Vita has the most recycled lineup of launch games ever. Wipeout and RIdge Racer were out on PSP in 2004 and are still better games, both were far more impressive for the time and have aged well. Lumines and Virtua Tennis are also totally recycled, Virtua Tennis hasn't improved in over 10 years! Factor in a hell of a lot of ports and frankly it is one of the most uninspiring launch lineups I have ever seen.

Don't get me wrong, the 3DS was little different but the Vita was a carbon copy of the PSP which made me go from wanting one to not caring at all.


Very true that. Shame Gravity Rush wasn't ready for release on day one to bring something fresh to the party.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby adippm82 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:23 am

I have 3 PSP's, and nearly 90 UMD games and about another 30 downloaded on the PSPgo, I have thought long and hard of upgrading to the PS Vita, but have yet to bite for a good few reasons, firstly, I do not agree it was one of the strongest launch lineups ever, yet another Wipeout game, yes it is new, but at heart much like the others, another Everybody's Golf, another Lumines, another Modnation game, another Uncharted game, at least with a new story, but similar to the others, Nintendo cop a lot of flak for doing their old IPs to death, but to my eyes Sony are little better, I see nothing different enough there as a long standing PSP owner to spend on the console, memory card and a couple of high priced games.

Add to this the likes of Ridge Racer with 95% of it's content removed, and largely only a flawed online game left, and it is not a very inspired line up at all, with all the better games still retailing at £30 plus.

The 3DS I have had since launch day, and at first I thought I had made a massive mistake, but thankfully it has come good, the problem for Sony is that Nintendo realised the price was wrong very quickly and did something about it, if the Vita is not brought officially well below £200 soon it is going to be very bad for them, I fear they may be too stubborn to take the plunge though, I hope I am wrong.

History already seems to be repeating itself, nobody gave the DS a prayer against the original PSP, but here is the successor hugely outselling the successor.

Also the fact I can stick almost all my back catalogue DS game carts in my 3DS, without having to clog up my memory card is a bonus too, and must be for others as well.

And both companies must be aware that they are competing with the likes of IOS and Android for peoples portable gaming time, if they don't then there is no helping them.

The PSP Vita is a beautiful machine, and for a machine that embraces normal controls as well as it's touch screens, it does interest me greatly, but the games and memory cards are just stupidly expensive, as are most of the 3DS games when new, I never have paid more than £20 for any of them bar Resident Evil Revelations, and never will.
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