Doom and other retro shooters.

[samhain81]

For me, I always preferred Heretic and Hexen to Doom and Nukem.

I grew up with Heretic II

[ChipTune]

For me, I always preferred Heretic and Hexen to Doom and Nukem.

I grew up with Heretic II

I guess that all depends on whether you prefer elves in tights and bows and arrows, or futuristic tech bases and heavy guns

Heretic 2 was complete balls though I'm afraid.

[Commander Jameson]

Don't think Unreal has been mentioned yet? Gameplay is perhaps a bit lacking, but its still fun to play today. Amazing in its day. Glad Rise of the Triad has been mentioned, loved it back in the day - never got past the 3rd episodes robot boss tough

Might be a bit too modern but AVP 1&2 on PC are both great games, as were Half Life's Opposing Forces and Gunman Chronicles.

Finally UNREAL gets some love 10 pages in! I have a soft spot for it, it was the first FPS I got with my PC in 1998 and the first time I could sit and play one all to myself, which I did - for weeks!

I've also just recently done Duke Nukem again, always good fun, but looking a bit dated.

Exhumed I enjoyed more than most on here, and have that AND Doom permanently on my PSP. Doom plays PARTICULARLY well on that device.

[Matt_B]

For me, I always preferred Heretic and Hexen to Doom and Nukem.

I grew up with Heretic II

I guess that all depends on whether you prefer elves in tights and bows and arrows, or futuristic tech bases and heavy guns

Heretic 2 was complete balls though I'm afraid.

And the first Heretic was basically just Doom re-skinned with a fantasy theme; most of the weapons and power-ups work almost the same ways as their Doom equivalents.

Hexen was pretty good fun though; at least they tried hard to make a different game with that one.

[samhain81]

Heretic 2 was complete balls though I'm afraid.

Fine by me, I love playing with balls anyway

[Dreamer]

PerKristians pk-sfx.wad (almost all of the original sfx have been remastered, shotgun reload and pick up sounds awesome!)

Hmm, I don't know if I like the idea of someone messing with Doom 2's double shotgun reload sound. It has to be THE best sound effect ever produced.

Me i still love the Midi's

QFT! I love Doom's music. So much so that I voted for it in the top 1000 western VGM tracks. E1M1 came 4th overall!

The Super shotgun still sounds as good as it ever did mate. Most of the new sfx were made using the original sounds so they sound the same as before but are far higher quality.

Nice to see someone else who still appreciates the Midi's
A couple of my fave's are:
E1M5 - Suspense
E2M8 - Nobody Told Me About id
I've also always enjoyed DOOM II's Map 09 - Into Sandys City

Wondering if anyone's reconstructed them to be more detailed models while retaining the layouts.

Ant, if you want to replace all of the 2D sprites with 3D Models then there's a couple of options:

Risen3D
http://risen3d.drdteam.org/

Doomsday / jDoom
http://dengine.net/

There is an ongoing project creating Hi-Res 2D sprites over at DoomUniverse by Thief666 and a few others which look pretty good so far.

I can't recommend the Hi-Res Texture Pack enough! I never liked BeautifulDOOM as it's just too OTT and changes too much kinda like BrutalDOOM.

Anyways here's a link if anyone wants to checkout some sexy screenys

http://dhtp.freelanzer.com/?page_id=7

[oli_lar]

Finally UNREAL gets some love 10 pages in! I have a soft spot for it, it was the first FPS I got with my PC in 1998 and the first time I could sit and play one all to myself, which I did - for weeks!

It doesn't seem to be mentioned at all these days - strange as all the PC mags went nuts about it for ages back then. I didn't actually play it until about 2003, but spent many hours drooling over screenshots and watching demo disc videos of it. The expansion pack was pretty good too.

[Antiriad2097]

I didn't have sufficient oomph in my PC to play the first Unreal properly. I bought it as a budget title a bit later, but its still in my 'to play' pile

From memory its big selling point was that it had more narrative to it that Doom's 'get to the end of the level' structure. What's it actually like now? Is it worth going back to or is it a tech demo?

[Hitman_HalStep]

okay i tried for a couple of hours to get the add on wad's to work and couldn't,BUT i looked at doomsday engine from Dreamer's link and seeing that it was an .exe that set itself up i downloaded and installed it.during installation i realised that i can add other .wad files to that and play them so i'm sorted now.

ultimate doom looks amazing through doomsday engine,heretic though is a little on the blurry side but there a loads of options to mess with that might sort that.now i need to get doom II and look at some of ChipTune's recommendations but after i finish quake II or i'll never finish it.

a final thanks to ChipTune for the advice and Dreamer for the links