Feedback Issue 93

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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby jdanddiet on Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:59 pm

Darran@Retro Gamer wrote:Glad to hear people have been enjoying (for the most part) the board game feature.

The plan was to initially devote a spread to each game (allowing for better detailed shots of the board) but we're already aware of the kind of negativity these types of articles can produce, so kept it as it is. Maybe we'll adopt the spread format for the future and maybe I'll do a one-off spread on Lost Valley Of The Dinosaurs. Who knows...


or how about one on video games based on board games :? :D
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby The Laird on Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:17 pm

New issue is pretty good, I enjoyed the Atari related articles the most of course :P

I didn't think the board games feature was half as bad as I was expecting, certainly a lot better than that Simon feature :lol:
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby yakmag on Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:39 pm

Enjoyed this issue (hell, I enjoy ALL the issues!)

Bit disappointed to see no 'From the Forum', please bring it back!!
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby paranoid marvin on Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:10 am

jdanddiet wrote:
Darran@Retro Gamer wrote:Glad to hear people have been enjoying (for the most part) the board game feature.

The plan was to initially devote a spread to each game (allowing for better detailed shots of the board) but we're already aware of the kind of negativity these types of articles can produce, so kept it as it is. Maybe we'll adopt the spread format for the future and maybe I'll do a one-off spread on Lost Valley Of The Dinosaurs. Who knows...


or how about one on video games based on board games :? :D



Good point . There were some games that came with boards or similar (Armageddon Man and Cloghie's Football Fortunes for 2) and gaes that were based on board games like Trivial Pursuit,Risk , Monopoly etc. Would benice to see the other side of the story.
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby kelp7 on Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:50 am

A really great issue. Nice one on the interview with Duncan Jones, how did that come about? It's sad to see that the areas of the magazine that relate to readership interactivity have been cut down. Really don't like that the "from the forum" has gone, it was really great to read people's opinions and comments in there (particularly as I don't have a lot of time to trawl the threads on here). Please bring that back.

Board Games feature brought a really nice bit of variety to the mag and I enjoyed it, brought back memories of playing the Pacman board game. Really had no idea there were so many different board games based on video games.

Also, I seem to remember a feature "why you must play", has that gone for now?
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby kelp7 on Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:52 am

Darran@Retro Gamer wrote:Lost Valley Of The Dinosaurs. Who knows...


Wow! Someone else remembers that game ! :)
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby necronom on Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:41 am

kelp7 wrote:
Darran@Retro Gamer wrote:Lost Valley Of The Dinosaurs. Who knows...


Wow! Someone else remembers that game ! :)


We have it in our house. It's brilliant! It has a plastic Pteranodon (which my younger Brother mis-read/pronounced as Pedaterraneon, so we always used to shout "Pedaterraneon Swoops" at the appropriate time :lol: ).

I want to play it right now.
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby kelp7 on Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:45 am

necronom wrote:
I want to play it right now.


Hehe.... it was great. All those little pieces of lava, I want to play it now also :)
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby CraigGrannell on Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:10 am

Darran@Retro Gamer wrote:maybe I'll do a one-off spread on Lost Valley Of The Dinosaurs. Who knows...

Yeah, thanks for that. I'd totally forgotten about that game and am now tracking a ton of eBay auctions for a good set! (That said, was this based on a videogame, then?)
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby jdanddiet on Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:12 am

CraigGrannell wrote:
Darran@Retro Gamer wrote:maybe I'll do a one-off spread on Lost Valley Of The Dinosaurs. Who knows...

Yeah, thanks for that. I'd totally forgotten about that game and am now tracking a ton of eBay auctions for a good set! (That said, was this based on a videogame, then?)


Don't think so, maybe Daz was having a little joke?
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby Pyramidenkopf on Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:19 pm

I enjoyed the article about Rastan. The conversion comparisons are always my favorite part of the magazine. Even though in this case I have to disagree on how you ranked the 8Bit homecomputer ports. But since they all suck in their own way it comes down to personal preference I guess. The DOS conversion should be up there with the Apple II port though because it actually does feature Adlib sound if started like "rastan.exe -A". At least this works for me.
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby NorthWay on Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:23 pm

Mayhem wrote:Zzap!64 was the best of the 80s mags.

Sorry, can't agree. I always found it a bit puerile and unfocused. I disagreed with them too often, and the use of multiple views on each game left it hanging in the air what the verdict really was.
C&VG up to 86 (possibly 88), covered much more ground, had much more variety (I loved the adventure and arcade columns), obviously had industry connections as they had exclusive previews, had presences at shows around the world, and felt as much more grown-up as they actually were. I usually considered Zzap the least interesting of the `64 mags, so mileage is obviously varying.

See, we're having an argument; what better reason does Darran need to go ahead with a magazine look-back?
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby Mayhem on Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:22 pm

Puerile and unfocused? Not really words I've ever heard in reference to Zzap!64 during its first four years. In the latter half of its incarnation, perhaps, but that was during the 90s and not part of this argument. After all, we're talking about magazines during the 80s ;)

I did read Commodore User at the same time, and in comparison found it more sterile and occasionally up its own arse... maybe Edge used that template in the end heh...

A review is an opinion. If you are providing three opinions, then it generally will cover more ground and possible divergent points than just one. I think that's why Newsfield chose to do things that way. Okay the strategy and adventure stuff was left to one person, but although they weren't quite my thing when I was younger, I still got the sense I could trust their opinion and there didn't appear any real bias. It's certainly what led me to try out games such as Wasteland and Laser Squad for example...
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby bsg on Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:06 pm

Excellent issue and other than the coverage of iOS games / retrorated section (i'm not against it in principle, it's just that the majority of the time, the games covered only have a very tenuous link to what most people consider 'Retro') It is probably my most favourite issue in the last year!

LOVED the board games article and found the boxouts containing the pieces that are included VERY handy for when I track the games down.

Fantastic article regarding the startup of syzygy / Atari inc. Nolan Bushnell is a fantastic bloke and a wealth of information - had coversations with him that revealed a LOT of stuff I didn't know about Atari (always been my favourite company, after all, the 800XL was my first ever computer (and is still sat behind me in working condition!!)).

The Nodes article surprised me - because for some reason, it's a game I skipped! Had a dig through my Speccy box and lo and bewhold, i've both Nodes and Arc so a bit of speccy time is now booked in :)

Loved the cover - it really pops...

As usual, congratulations to all involved for bringing us mere mortals another brilliant issue - keep up the good work... and oh, bring back 'from the forum' you bunch of bassas :lol:
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Re: Feedback Issue 93

Postby Rory Milne on Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:39 am

Lots to love this month:

A moment with Duncan Jones was interesting; I really rate his movies but was intrigued as to how an interview in Retro Gamer would be made to work. It did, though, since he’s obviously as passionate about his retro gaming as most readers.

It was fantastic to see Computer Space in the mag, in any capacity, but a full-on making of really ticked all the boxes. The techy bits throughout were fascinating, I loved how it was soaked in ‘70s reminiscences, and it was great to see so many industry pioneers interviewed for the piece.

Cheap as Chips, in my opinion an underrated feature, did a really good job of showing off Buster Busts Loose. The page looked busy and colourful, and the copy made the game sound like a hell of a lot of fun. One for the must play list.

The Retrorevivals this issue, Crusader: No Remorse and Werewolves of London, were perfect choices from a visual point of view and made for really nice looking spreads. It’s also good to see more PC titles appearing in the mag.

30 years of Galaga was a good read, not sure if I buy the story that Galaxian and Galaga have got nothing to do with each other, but it didn’t spoil my enjoyment of the piece.

Another brilliant Unconverted this month, it’s a feature that just goes from strength to strength to be fair, and this issue we got some really contrasting titles genre-wise.

Coin-op Capers focusing on Rastan, if I’m honest, wasn’t the first thing I read this month, as I’m not a big fan of the game. But I was pleasantly surprised when I got around to it. Apart from having an interesting history, the various sections of the feature contrasted nicely and by the end of the feature I was actually thinking of giving the game a second chance.

I really enjoyed Signature Series this month, it’s a nice length for this sort of piece and Quake was a good fit for the format. I appreciate that this isn’t a feature that has had loud cheering on the forum feedback pages as yet, but I have a feeling it will grow in popularity as the months go by.

Classic Game on Parodius looked fantastic, and it’s great to see the game covered in the mag.

I’ve no complaints about the amount of ‘70s coverage of late, and From the Archives featuring Atari Inc was another high point for me this month. The meticulous research that must have gone into the piece makes my head hurt, and it’s only part one of feature!

I have to reserve special praise for the making of Nodes of Yesod, alright I’m biased, I love the game. But this was a beautiful feature to look at; even if the copy had read, “All work and no play makes Craig a dull boy,” over and over again, I’d have highly rated this piece. As it was, the story behind Nodes was a very interesting one and the writing was well up to Mr. Grannell’s usual sky-high standards.

Lastly, the design work on this issue, and recently, for the covers, the one-off and new features, in my opinion, has been nothing short of stunning.

In short, since this post is already madly long, another great issue. :D
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