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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby StickHead on Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:33 pm

lanky316 wrote:Isn't there also some silly system where teams can get fined and penalties for "running up the score"? I know I've seen various debates on things like PTI and Round The Horn about over the years.


In the U.S. it's considered bad form to continue thrashing a team by scoring more points when the outcome of a game is already decided. Normal procedure is to field your rookies/third string and ease off the gas. It's not something I've ever understood to be honest (maybe its a British thing) and I think it is disrespectful and patronising an opponent to 'go easy on them'.
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby paranoid marvin on Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:47 pm

StickHead wrote:
lanky316 wrote:Isn't there also some silly system where teams can get fined and penalties for "running up the score"? I know I've seen various debates on things like PTI and Round The Horn about over the years.


In the U.S. it's considered bad form to continue thrashing a team by scoring more points when the outcome of a game is already decided. Normal procedure is to field your rookies/third string and ease off the gas. It's not something I've ever understood to be honest (maybe its a British thing) and I think it is disrespectful and patronising an opponent to 'go easy on them'.



I had no idea; how ridiculous! So you're not allowed to put on a show for your fans? I agree, it IS disrespectful to the opposition and also to the subs you bring on, but if it's the way they do things over there then I guess they don't take offence.

I do like NFL , but there's plenty to dislike too (no moreso than as above). It's easy to see why people who haven't been brought up to see NFL as the be-all and end-all of sport might dislike it , and prefer a more flowing and less stat-heavy sport like rugby. With the possible exception of The Superbowl, the glitz and glamour is lost on the tv viewer and I guess without it NFL and even moreso MLB would be pretty dull to watch live.
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby StickHead on Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:23 pm

I see your point. Sports fall into two categories for me: those that I will give 100% of my attention and watch start to finish (basketball, football) and the more relaxing sort that I like to have on in the background while I do other stuff or enjoy some drinkies with mates (baseball, cricket, American football - unless the Giants are playing, of course). That seems to tally with your idea of flowing and stop/start sports.

I have seen the Knicks play at Madison Square Garden a few times, and the Yankees play twice, but nothing, absolutely nothing the American sports have comes close to the feelings of being on a football grounds terrace. Spontaneous, genuinely funny songs; the willingness to sing and shout yourself hoarse nonstop for 90 minutes; coming away with sore hands from clapping as loud as possible most the game; the inability to contain the joy of a scored goal resulting in jumping about like a lunatic and hugging absolute strangers - American 'chants' and 'atmosphere' pail in comparison. I tried to inject a bit of British spirit into a Knicks game once and all I got was funny looks. I made up songs and everything! :lol:
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby psj3809 on Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:13 pm

In american football theres no penalty to run up the score. But as its been pointed out its considered poor to do that. The Patriots a few years back were setting records week in week out and were running up scores. Late in the year when they were winning a game very easily, one of their starting players was injured (And then lots of people said 'serve them right'). Key injury in the end as they lost in the playoffs a few weeks later.

A lot of times in the premiership if a teams winning say 5-0 they'll bring on some young players late in the game

But theres no penalties or anything if a team wants to keep running up the score.
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby boggyb68 on Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:32 pm

Welll that was an interesting week.. 49'ers scraped a very low scoring game, but psj, that was a great result for your boys!

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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby psj3809 on Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:57 pm

Amazing

I was watching it live on nfl.com/gamepass

Chewed most of my nails off i think ! Amazing result specially after the huge letdown in Buffalo

However this week i'm not expecting much against the Patriots. Still i would have taken 2-2 after the first 4 weeks, its the next month i'm worried about where the Raiders play games they 'should' win.

The games live on Sky so its blacklisted from Gamepass, so i'll watch it on TV, going to be hard avoiding results as they often mention touchdowns straight away from other games.

But roll on sunday night ! I'm not expecting a win but you just never know.
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby scoe81 on Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:23 am

Big NFL fan here,love playing it on the consoles and used to play it myself as a RB.Madden games like most EA sports titles seem to add very little to each game each year now so maybe its time they made a game once every two years and maybe just a patch update each year.Raider fan here but not because NWA either lol One of my alltime favourite nfl games was Joe montanas football on the MD ,great gameplay
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby scoe81 on Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:33 am

psj3809 wrote:Amazing

I was watching it live on nfl.com/gamepass

Chewed most of my nails off i think ! Amazing result specially after the huge letdown in Buffalo

However this week i'm not expecting much against the Patriots. Still i would have taken 2-2 after the first 4 weeks, its the next month i'm worried about where the Raiders play games they 'should' win.

The games live on Sky so its blacklisted from Gamepass, so i'll watch it on TV, going to be hard avoiding results as they often mention touchdowns straight away from other games.

But roll on sunday night ! I'm not expecting a win but you just never know.


Ahhhh PSJ is apart of the RAIDER NATION too,good man.You been a fan since back in the days of Bo...Marcus...Mervin fernandez??
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby Mire Mare on Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:32 pm

pfft! Jets mistakes = Raiders win.

;)

It was an exciting game but I cannot believe the Jets lost that. 3 - 17 ahead too *sigh* Raiders played very well though and made plays out of nothing on a lot of occasions. I was gutted that Sanchez' td was disallowed - could have been one heck of an end to the game.

Jets getting too big for their footie boots according to Namath but Rex Ryan had some good retorts. Anyway, Ravens next for the Jets. I'm off on MOnday so i will but up all night to watch it.
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby scoe81 on Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:45 am

Mire Mare wrote:pfft! Jets mistakes = Raiders win.

;)

It was an exciting game but I cannot believe the Jets lost that. 3 - 17 ahead too *sigh* Raiders played very well though and made plays out of nothing on a lot of occasions. I was gutted that Sanchez' td was disallowed - could have been one heck of an end to the game.

Jets getting too big for their footie boots according to Namath but Rex Ryan had some good retorts. Anyway, Ravens next for the Jets. I'm off on MOnday so i will but up all night to watch it.


Mccfadden is going to easly do the 1000+ yards this year :) if we didnt have him then none of the games would have even been close.Anyone going to the bears game in london??? I am and cant wait
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby psj3809 on Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:59 pm

Mire Mare wrote:pfft! Jets mistakes = Raiders win.

;)

It was an exciting game but I cannot believe the Jets lost that. 3 - 17 ahead too *sigh* Raiders played very well though and made plays out of nothing on a lot of occasions. I was gutted that Sanchez' td was disallowed - could have been one heck of an end to the game.


Well the Raiders made mistakes as well, on Tomlinsons huge long touchdown reception it was a terrible missed tackle by McClain.

scoe81 wrote:Mccfadden is going to easly do the 1000+ yards this year :) if we didnt have him then none of the games would have even been close.Anyone going to the bears game in london??? I am and cant wait


Well just hope McFadden stays healthy. 18 months ago people were calling Al an idiot for drafting him and now look !

I'm glad theres a regular season game at Wembley (I went to the first one) but nowadays with being able to watch the Raiders live every sunday night on Gamepass (Granted tonight its Sky) then i would rather watch the Raiders game live then go and see a game where i dont care about the result.
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby boggyb68 on Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:16 pm

Well, that was another close result! 49'ers were 20-3 down to the Eagles going into the 3rd quarter.. but turned it round to win 24-23! good thing is they're on 3-1 while the Seahawks and Cardinals are in 1-3 and poor old Rams are on 0-4..

I won't mention the Raiders and Jets results.. ;)

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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby psj3809 on Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:20 pm

Well i watched the Raiders game, they were actually in the game in the first half but the Raiders QB threw a stupid interception (Tried to 'throw it away' but threw it too low and was intercepted in the endzone) otherwise could have been 17-17 at halftime. Second half was all Patriots sadly.

Can handle a loss to the Pats, Raiders in a fortnight have Cleveland/Denver/Kansas City coming up, those are games the team should win. Losing one of those will upset me !

Amazing 49ers win, i watched the second half of that without knowing the score, for once i was cheering on the Niners as i cant stand the Eagles (because of the dog killing QB Vick !). Funny how that all star team is now 1-3, sure they'll turn it around but i'm stunned at their record so far.

Just got one more game to watch, halfway through the Monday Night game. Been difficult avoiding NFL websites and twitter (As i have lots of NFL feeds) all week long so far.
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby Mire Mare on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:16 pm

I watched the Jets game... it was pretty ugly. Both teams struggled on offence. A few times I thought it was all over but Jets kept getting the ball back and the Ravens QB kept trying to pass. The Jets weren't even out of it at 27 - 7 and got the socre back to 27 - 17. I leaped out of my seat when Jets recovered the ball in the 3rd quarter and then only minutes later it was all over as Sanchez threw an easy interception that the Ravens returned for another TD. Some big questions for the Jets to fond answers to and quick!

I'm not hopeful for the visit to the Patriots this weekend.
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Re: The NFL 'craze' of the mid 80s to early 90s

Postby StickHead on Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:23 pm

Is anyone else enjoying the battering Michael Vick is getting, made all the sweeter by the amount of wingeing the guy is doing?

There's a saying: NFL refs protect those who protect themselves. :wink:
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