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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby DigitalDuck on Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:50 pm

shiftytigger wrote:If something is representative of a real life / virtual life occurrence surely it is portrayed in 3 dimensions anyway - watching an actual film (with real people in 'real' locations) on a cinema screen is surely using a perception of 3 dimensions in the first place.


Except a cinema screen is two-dimensional. You're using a perception of two dimensions and your brain is filling in the third dimension on guesswork.

shiftytigger wrote:I cannot perceive anything above the usual 3 dimensions , my eyes do not 'allow' for the added 3d-ness of the current trend in films and games as light/shade , depth , contours , physical volume etc are part of 3 dimensions.


But none of that is above the usual three dimensions. The "3d-ness" in current films isn't added - it's merely not taken away.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby greenberet79 on Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:20 pm

Why does there have to be a versus? What a childish thread - I expect more from the readers of Retro Gamer!!
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby shiftytigger on Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:42 pm

My comment on cinema still stands - I understand that it is two dimensional , showing a 2 dimensional rendering of something that visually has 3 dimensions (or would were it not being shown on a flat screen) - it is flat but our brain understands how to process what it would be like in real life which still renders it a 3 dimensional understanding,as we would by looking at the actual film set whilst it is filmed..

even 2-d fighters for example still give a basic vision of depths,though not realistic.

I cannot see the difference between watching a 'non' 3d film - nothing 'leaps' out of the screen at me - all i get is a headache.

So maybe I'm just p155ed at not being able to enjoy '3d' films/games - mind you if Transformers 3 is anything to go by,Im fine in my flat world with no perspective.

greenberet79 wrote:Why does there have to be a versus? What a childish thread - I expect more from the readers of Retro Gamer!!


check the rest of the thread - most people dont 'choose' - there IS more depth (bad pun intended and :roll: expected) to most of the readers.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby QuantumCrayons on Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:35 pm

Showed my dad the 3DS today in Tescos and he was properly impressed by the 3D technique. Not that he's a game player, mind, he just like tech!
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby SonicTheHedgehog on Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:48 am

For some reason i don't mind the 3d effect on Zelda Ocarina Of Time but some of the other games iv played its really bad for me. Then there is 3d for films which i just find terrible and cant sit for longer than 10 mins watching one before my eyes start aching and i start getting a headache. If i refused to give in and just sat there i would start to feel sick and my temperature would skyrocket and would feel like passing out. This is what happened when i went to see Avatar in Imax 3d and i had to actually walk out with 40 mins left to go to the bathroom and wash my face with cold water and sit down to recoup. But like i mentioned the other day playing Zelda with the 3d on full i totally saw it and i could easily play it through like that feeling fine, even if i still prefer a standard screen image.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby shiftytigger on Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:21 am

SonicTheHedgehog wrote:For some reason i don't mind the 3d effect on Zelda Ocarina Of Time but some of the other games iv played its really bad for me. Then there is 3d for films which i just find terrible and cant sit for longer than 10 mins watching one before my eyes start aching and i start getting a headache. If i refused to give in and just sat there i would start to feel sick and my temperature would skyrocket and would feel like passing out. This is what happened when i went to see Avatar in Imax 3d and i had to actually walk out with 40 mins left to go to the bathroom and wash my face with cold water and sit down to recoup. But like i mentioned the other day playing Zelda with the 3d on full i totally saw it and i could easily play it through like that feeling fine, even if i still prefer a standard screen image.



I dont know many others who suffer like this,but I suppose there will always be exceptions to a rule. I didn't play for long enough on the 3ds maybe (possibly over cautious , knowing what 3d films do to me has jaded me I think) , but 3D films are a no go for me now - can't suffer like that just to watch a film. Nice to know I'm not the only one.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Mootown on Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:40 am

Vita seems to have had a few issues with freezing and a few other hardware problems with some units from the Japanese launch according to this article - http://uk.vita.ign.com/articles/121/1215139p1.html

A friend of mine has imported one so I hope he doesn't get one that's got any of the issues. Hopefully all this will be sorted by the time the UK launch arrives next year, it's a shame though as it takes a bit of shine away from the launch.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby MikeFishcake on Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:51 am

If/when the PSV gets hacked and can play Amiga games at full speed, I may consider it :)
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby DreamcastRIP on Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:59 pm

PSV fails to beat 3DS opening two day sales: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011- ... s-revealed :o
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby snowkatt on Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:05 pm

not that huge a difference but lets roll out the ps vita is doomed bandwagon
thats how most responses to sales figures go right ?
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby QuantumCrayons on Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:06 pm

Could be solely because the Vita is a wee bit more expensive; that £30(?) difference between the two machines at launch could be all its down to. Glad to see a proper competitor against the 3DS.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby snowkatt on Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:13 pm

QuantumCrayons wrote:Could be solely because the Vita is a wee bit more expensive; that £30(?) difference between the two machines at launch could be all its down to. Glad to see a proper competitor against the 3DS.



probably and the differences are minute it could mean that if sony scales the price down a bit they may have a hit on their hands
and with the right games the vita may go ballistic
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby DreamcastRIP on Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:16 pm

QuantumCrayons wrote:Could be solely because the Vita is a wee bit more expensive; that £30(?) difference between the two machines at launch could be all its down to. Glad to see a proper competitor against the 3DS.

Yep. I'm still a little surprised though given that PSV has launched with a day one games line-up hugely superior to the mess that was 3DS's launch. Let's not forget that 3DS didn't even launch in Japan with a new Mario or Zelda game either.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby DreamcastRIP on Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:51 pm

Some websites are proclaiming PSV's opening two day sales a huge success by citing the 'fact' it has sold over double of what PSP did.

What they're not necessarily so keen to mention is that the figure used for PSP sales is for day one sales only, not for the opening two days. :wink:
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby SonicTheHedgehog on Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:21 pm

I think unless Sony cuts the price massively like Nintendo did with the 3ds soon after its out worldwide the sales will start to tank in 2012. Like someone above mentioned Sony has a vastly superior launch lineup than 3ds did and still failed to equal or surpass the 3ds sales even if it's a tad more expensive than 3ds was. And only when the 3ds got dropped to £150 and a mega title with a big reputation in Ocarina Of Time got released did we see sales pickup. The worrying thing for Sony is although on average the launch lineup is better and there are more games available i can't see Sony dropping the price by as large an amount as Nintendo did and they don't have anything coming that is/was as good or with as big a following as Ocarina like a FF7 remake or new Gran Turismo or MGS.
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