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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Misery on Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:06 pm

DreamcastRIP wrote:Neither. iOS/Android smartphones will beat them both.

However, at least Sony is showing some forward thinking by integrating PlayStation Suite into PlayStation Vita. Nintendo however...



This.

And I side with this one, specifically after having had an iPad for a year.... having done more than enough gaming with it to see the potential. ....potential which has, really, already been fulfilled.

Though, I will BUY a Vita anyway, as it looks like it's going to have some games I actually care about. I cannot say that of the 3DS. Not even a single game on there I'm remotely interested in.

But still, in all honesty, I think the phones/tablets/whatever have already won. And yeah, I've heard the "oh but you dont get REAL games on there" arguement, and frankly, it's full of crap. Anyone saying that hasnt had enough time with one, hasnt played the right games (and believe me... there's *alot* of hardcore-type games on there. I wouldnt be using them if there werent), or is just uncoordinated and having trouble with the screen.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby QuantumCrayons on Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:52 pm

Misery wrote:But still, in all honesty, I think the phones/tablets/whatever have already won.

Not a chance, the "battle" is still going on, seeing as sales of handhelds are hitting millions still. I reckon all three platforms (Nintendo, Sony and phone) will all exist in balance with each other eventually, each catering to its own.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Misery on Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:13 pm

QuantumCrayons wrote:
Misery wrote:But still, in all honesty, I think the phones/tablets/whatever have already won.

Not a chance, the "battle" is still going on, seeing as sales of handhelds are hitting millions still. I reckon all three platforms (Nintendo, Sony and phone) will all exist in balance with each other eventually, each catering to its own.



Specifically, the phones/mobile/tablets have all been going for AWHILE.... each version, and there are many, getting really, really high amounts of sales. Mostly iOS I"m thinking of, but Android as well. And then the utterly absurd amount of THINGS on places like the App Store and such.... Million sellers or not, the handhelds are going to have a VERY hard time catching up. Apple reports 250 million iOS devices sold so far... this was in October of this year that they said this, probably to brag, haha. I have no idea how many Android devices sold, but there's lots of different versions of those since Apple's strictness isnt involved. Though, these two (Nintendo/Sony) seem perfectly content to just compete with each other, rather than competing with the phones. Wheras Microsoft jumped into the phones, and.... I have no idea how theirs is doing, I just know it exists. I'm not too fond of the 360, despite having one, so I dont particularly care how the Windows phone is doing. Android seems content to just fire at Apple, and Apple..... seems not to give a rat's ass and often seems to just ignore everyone else because..... because why not. I dont claim to understand how they do business, I just smile and nod as if I do.

But.... yeah. I dont generally care too much about the sales numbers usually.... I'll buy whatever in the bloody heck I want to regardless.... but it's the game selection that sways me, which is also why I ditched the DS and PSP.. None of them.... the DS, PSP, 3DS, or Vita, can, in my eyes, compare to iOS right now in terms of selection. Hell, the ONLY reason I still have a DS is because of Ketsui Death Label, an expensive import only found on that thing.... and even then, I dont use it much. DS actually used as a coaster right now (no joke). I had a PSP for awhile, pretty much for Monster Hunter, and then it shattered (....sadly, also no joke. Managed to drop the blasted thing somewhere rather stupid. Didnt I feel like a klutz...). I'll buy the Vita, certain devs I like will be developing for it.... but not the 3DS, probably ever. I'd say.... the last handheld I *really* enjoyed was the old Game Boy Color. Loved that. Didnt care for the Advance much, and then shortly after that I developed a loathing for Nintendo.

In reality though, mere numbers dont actually matter all that much. Well, they matter to the companies involved, hah, but to us gamers? Nah. I can think of plenty of consoles Iv'e enjoyed and still own that did NOT sell very well, yet are still quite grand. Only the games matter, and right now, I for one will be sticking with the iOS stuff. I've been way too impressed by it to NOT stick with it. The part where I have about 112 games for it right now also helps.

Either way though, it'll be interesting to see what happens, though I doubt I'll follow all of it too closely. Sales charts are boring.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby thevulture on Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:21 pm

:? Is'nt the new 360 dashboard supposed to tie in closer to Windows 7 Phone? (My mobile phone is just that, a mobile phone, so don't follow these things as such).

Misery:you need'nt feel too much of a klutz, i dropped a PC monitor base on my then new PSP (Phat), smashed screen to pieces, this was at a time i could'nt find anyone to repair it, let alone replacement screen.

Sales figures? Think possibly with Vita, it's case of Japanese waiting for a game or 2 to suit them (New Monster Hunter?), from games i've seen for Vita, feels very European/USA based.

Sure Sony will want to keep Vita going strong, as PSP did great guns over there, so will probably start securing some exclusives, if they have'nt done so already, that they hope will light a fire under Vita, in Japan.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Misery on Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:26 pm

thevulture wrote::? Is'nt the new 360 dashboard supposed to tie in closer to Windows 7 Phone? (My mobile phone is just that, a mobile phone, so don't follow these things as such).

Misery:you need'nt feel too much of a klutz, i dropped a PC monitor base on my then new PSP (Phat), smashed screen to pieces, this was at a time i could'nt find anyone to repair it, let alone replacement screen.

Sales figures? Think possibly with Vita, it's case of Japanese waiting for a game or 2 to suit them (New Monster Hunter?), from games i've seen for Vita, feels very European/USA based.

Sure Sony will want to keep Vita going strong, as PSP did great guns over there, so will probably start securing some exclusives, if they have'nt done so already, that they hope will light a fire under Vita, in Japan.


Yeah, I'd heard that about the dashboard thing. Makes me care about the Windows phone even less. Frankly, I cant stand the new interface. It's just ANNOYING. And clumsy. It seems to have gotten harder to browse a game collection, particularly when you've got a squillionty downloaded titles like I have. Takes forever now!

I dunno what those guys are thinking with that sort of thing sometimes. I give credit to Sony for finding a workable format and just STICKING WITH IT. Kudos to them. So far, anyway. For all I know the Vita could have an annoying interface too.

...and yeah, I didnt drop an entire monitor on my PSP like that..... though, I DID drop a TV on the Saturn once recently. It seems indestructible though, works fine. Sure dont want THAT breaking. Saturn is full of good stuff. Though I dont have much for it yet.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby QuantumCrayons on Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:29 pm

Misery wrote:But.... yeah. I dont generally care too much about the sales numbers usually.... I'll buy whatever in the bloody heck I want to regardless....
Either way though, it'll be interesting to see what happens, though I doubt I'll follow all of it too closely. Sales charts are boring.

Surely the sales charts will determine the survival/death of a console, though? Also, remember that iOS devices aren't dedicated games machines, so it's highly likely that they will sell more than if they only had games. The DS alone has almost hit 150 million sales, albeit in a bit of a longer time than the iOS has been around, but phones will always sell well if they do other stuff too.

Not to say that the phones are bad/doing badly by any means of the concept, just that I reckon it's similar to comparing the number of PCs sold to the number of PS2s in the same time span; both are different beasts, one dedicated one multifunctional.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby thevulture on Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:35 pm

Thing with Hardware sales, espically where PSP related stuff is concerned, it can be miss-leading.

Unless the software to hardware ratio is there, publishers won't care how many hardware units are sold, yep we are talking CFW time.Piracy on PSP meant a lot of publishers just gave up on the system, i'd wager good few will be watching what happens with this on Vita, very carefully, espically now some bright spark has already got PSP homebrew running on Vita via the PSP emulator.

As far as i'm aware, the 1st firmware update for Vita, has only been put out in response to users complaining of the system freezing up in some cases.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Misery on Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:38 pm

QuantumCrayons wrote:
Misery wrote:But.... yeah. I dont generally care too much about the sales numbers usually.... I'll buy whatever in the bloody heck I want to regardless....
Either way though, it'll be interesting to see what happens, though I doubt I'll follow all of it too closely. Sales charts are boring.

Surely the sales charts will determine the survival/death of a console, though? Also, remember that iOS devices aren't dedicated games machines, so it's highly likely that they will sell more than if they only had games. The DS alone has almost hit 150 million sales, albeit in a bit of a longer time than the iOS has been around, but phones will always sell well if they do other stuff too.

Not to say that the phones are bad/doing badly by any means of the concept, just that I reckon it's similar to comparing the number of PCs sold to the number of PS2s in the same time span; both are different beasts, one dedicated one multifunctional.


Hmm, quite true, cant argue with that.

Stuff like that is probably why Sony had been bragging for so long about "ZOMG the Vita will be able to do EVERYTHING! Play games, access the internet, play music, feed your dog, do your wash, drive you to work and back, and cure cancer!!!". Wether or not that will help them specifically though, hard to say. I always think they dont advertise/push their products quite right.

Though, when it comes to the phones, I usually prefer to look at the game sales numbers, confusing as they are. iOS is.... definitely doing fine on that front. Android? Ah, I really have no idea. I dont have Android devices. I'd be interested to know though.

I've completely forgotten whatever else it was I was gonna say. Agh, I havent had my blasted caffiene yet. Which is now all I can think about.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby steve82 on Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:29 pm

i think the original psp is currently more of a threat to the 3ds than vita is

actually i think the gizmondo is selling better than the psvita at present
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Matt_B on Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:49 pm

steve82 wrote:i think the original psp is currently more of a threat to the 3ds than vita is

actually i think the gizmondo is selling better than the psvita at present


Yep, and it's not like Sony can chuck out a couple of Mario games just before Christmas to save it either.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby DreamcastRIP on Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:21 am

The first sign of Sony (in Europe at least) cracking in reaction to the abysmal sales so far of PS Vita?

"PlayStation Vita getting temporary price cut in France"
http://www.videogamer.com/news/playstat ... rance.html

How long until an official across the board 3DS-style price cut for PS Vita I wonder?
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby ShadowMan on Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:13 am

DreamcastRIP wrote:The first sign of Sony (in Europe at least) cracking in reaction to the abysmal sales so far of PS Vita?

"PlayStation Vita getting temporary price cut in France"
http://www.videogamer.com/news/playstat ... rance.html

How long until an official across the board 3DS-style price cut for PS Vita I wonder?


E3's next week, it doesn't seem unreasonable to maybe expect an official price cut announcement there seeing as sales across the board have been lacklustre. Quite a shame as well that its not doing very well as its quickly turning into my favourite handheld, bar my iPhone its the only one I'm using at the moment thanks to great portable UMvC3 and Dynasty Warriors.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Freestyler on Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:42 am

Drop your memory card prices to realistic levels and we'll talk. Simple as.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby Matt_B on Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:49 am

I think it's more a case of when than if for the price cut. Another year of bumbling along at the current rate of sales and the format will be stone dead.
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Re: PS Vita vs 3DS

Postby steve82 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:02 am

Most of the people with PS VITAS only seem to be interested in when they will be able to play PS1 games on it. Never mind next generation handheld games console games from 15 years ago are more important
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