Mass Effect 3

[thevulture]

Last few games i've bought on day 1 release i poured hours into had poor at best endings:Mass Effect 3,Killzone 3, Deus Ex and Dark Souls.Of those 3? Dark Souls was the most dissapointing and i came away with a sense of....and that's IT? bahhhh...no urge to replay.

Lot of games promised a lot that for 1 reason or another they don't deliver:The Fable series, Mass effect 1-3 to some degree, hell ad.campain for Halo 2 had me thinking a large % of game would have you fighting to retake/save earth, auctual game rather different and here too awful ending.

In time i'm sure Bioware will shed more light on why game ended as it did (i'm guessing deadlines, change of direction etc), they may even re-do it via DLC (did'nt the Halo 2 map pack exp.disc on Xbox have different ending put on?), but people threatening legal action etc bit O.T.T. i fear.

[thevulture]

' The latest? Gamers not happy with Mass Effect 3′s ending are sending the game – opened, completed – back to retailers like Amazon for their money back.

According to the blog, Amazon at least will “issue a full or partial refund if you are not satisfied with the quality of Mass Effect 3, and it is the developer’s fault.”

The developer’s fault? It’s their fault you don’t like the ending? Has it really come to this? There’s even talk that gamers that bought EA’s latest RPG from the PlayStation Network are asking for their credit back for a similar reason.'

World gone mad? (above taken from Thesixthaxis).

[SomeScrub]

So I don't know about all of you but so far me3 has been a massive disappoint for me. Considering how gigantic a step up me2 was from the first one I was really hoping they would knock it out again, but christ is that not what happened.

[thevulture]

So I don't know about all of you but so far me3 has been a massive disappoint for me. Considering how gigantic a step up me2 was from the first one I was really hoping they would knock it out again, but christ is that not what happened.

Think that's been a 'curse' this generation with good few key franchises.By time the 3rd game is out, graphics engine just tweaked more than fundementally improved-developers familar with hardware, run code better, rather than discovering untapped power. Gameplay wise? they are giving fans what they (think) they want...Whilst i enjoyed Mass effect 3, Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, Killzone 3 etc, they were'nt the leap the previous instalments were.Yet to play it, but think same will apply to Gears Of War 3...

[HalcyonDaze00]

So I don't know about all of you but so far me3 has been a massive disappoint for me. Considering how gigantic a step up me2 was from the first one I was really hoping they would knock it out again, but christ is that not what happened.

Im only around half way through but its easily one of the best games I have ever played, I think its a good mix of 1 and 2 (more RPG than 2 but with much better combat than 1, the missions are also superb and on an epic scale)

[HalcyonDaze00]

on the subject of the ending, good article here from the ever brilliant digitiser:

http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/89375 ... ek-feature

I will be sure to post my thoughts when I eventually get to the game ending

[thevulture]

on the subject of the ending, good article here from the ever brilliant digitiser:

http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/89375 ... ek-feature

I will be sure to post my thoughts when I eventually get to the game ending

Depending on how long you take to finish it, you might be getting a 'different' or at very least extended ending to 1 i got, if reports on forthcoming DLC prove true.

[sscott]

So I don't know about all of you but so far me3 has been a massive disappoint for me. Considering how gigantic a step up me2 was from the first one I was really hoping they would knock it out again, but christ is that not what happened.

Think that's been a 'curse' this generation with good few key franchises.By time the 3rd game is out, graphics engine just tweaked more than fundementally improved-developers familar with hardware, run code better, rather than discovering untapped power. Gameplay wise? they are giving fans what they (think) they want...Whilst i enjoyed Mass effect 3, Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, Killzone 3 etc, they were'nt the leap the previous instalments were.Yet to play it, but think same will apply to Gears Of War 3...

Think you're expectations are a little high, these are 5-7 year old machines.

[thevulture]

on the subject of the ending, good article here from the ever brilliant digitiser:

http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/89375 ... ek-feature

I will be sure to post my thoughts when I eventually get to the game ending

'Time and time again BioWare have delivered disappointing downloadable content that doesn't seem to realise that the attraction for fans is the interaction with characters, not the entirely secondary appeal of the third person combat. Their dialogue can be clunky and their personalities cliché but no other game lets you interact and socialise with virtual characters in quite the way Mass Effect does. '

Very good point there.Loved all 3 Mass Effect games, but the DLC been very hit n miss indeed.Overlord was superb, but The Arrival..awful.Just Shepard and a NPC now and then and very little else Mass effect wise.

[thevulture]

@Sscot:Age of hardware very liitle to do with it.Examples:
Killzone 3:Developers upped the cut scene material greatly, put in 3D mode, hired proper actors for the voice work etc etc.Story i found was weaker than 2nd game, liked the MP side, though it took 'flak' from those who prefered that of KZ2 and little new, ideas wise in main gameplay.

Resistance 3:1st half of game:superb, the 1st in the FPS series (ignoring PSP 3rd person game), to really make me feel part of a RESISTANCE force, not just cog in military machine, come 2nd half? degenerated into generic Resistance FPS fare, ending dissapointed, so again, missed op.to do something different with story and gameplay mechanics.

Mass Effect 3:Gameplay elements dumbed down, your decisions (which i'd been making since 1st game) counted for so very little at end of game.

Take any or all 3 of these, put them on cutting edge PC hardware, running DX 11, rather than DX 9, Unreal 4 engine, rather than 3 and result would be the same.

[thevulture]

Also, sounds like Ninja Gaiden 3 another good example, clearly not aimed at those of us who've been playing since original on Xbox.


Developers are it seems 'playing it safe' with sequels..bigger set pieces, greater focus on online/multi-player, throw in some Kinect/Move support etc.

There was nothing to stop developers trying new approach for a 2nd or 3rd installment, age of hardware not a factor.

Dead Space 2 another example-Atmosphere of 1st i found replaced with more gore, more creatures to clear from each room before progressing, yet since it way outsold original, i just know it'll be the template 3rd game is based on, not that of the 1st.

[sscott]

Also, sounds like Ninja Gaiden 3 another good example, clearly not aimed at those of us who've been playing since original on Xbox.


Developers are it seems 'playing it safe' with sequels..bigger set pieces, greater focus on online/multi-player, throw in some Kinect/Move support etc.

There was nothing to stop developers trying new approach for a 2nd or 3rd installment, age of hardware not a factor.

Dead Space 2 another example-Atmosphere of 1st i found replaced with more gore, more creatures to clear from each room before progressing, yet since it way outsold original, i just know it'll be the template 3rd game is based on, not that of the 1st.

Dead Space 1 was indeed vastly superior to number 2. Felt genuinely isolated and claustrophobic in the first game.

[HalcyonDaze00]

Mass Effect 3:Gameplay elements dumbed down, your decisions (which i'd been making since 1st game) counted for so very little at end of game.

Not sure about this as even though I havent reached the end I have still seen the results of my choices quite a lot throughout the game so far, I may change my mind when I see the ending but the story so far does seem to be reflecting things I have done in the past which is ace. Also not too sure where the game has been dumbed down, cant say ive noticed me3 being much less complex etc than 1 and 2

[thevulture]

Trying hard NOT too give too much away about endings, such as they (currently) are.

You played Deus Ex:H.R? if so,.........not a million miles apart in terms of so called decisions and how they effect overal outcome.

[thevulture]

'Dead Space 1 was indeed vastly superior to number 2. Felt genuinely isolated and claustrophobic in the first game.'

Now your getting what i mean, Sscot.Sure technically Dead Space 2 was the 'better' game, more detail, more creatures on screen, better lighting etc, so sure it made more use of host hardware, but auctual game? step backwards, you nailed it with what made the 1st game such a winner for myself (created a far more oppressive atmosphere than anything i found in say Resident Evil 5), had such hopes for D.S 2, yet might as well blown them out a window into the harsh vacum of space (feature sadly under used in D.S 2).

I'd hope, least of all 'expect' any sequel to improve on aspects that made original stand out, whilst using technical advances (better game engine) for better gaming exp.Not:here's gallons of gore, swarms of foe and bloody useless M.P side we felt we had to include or we'd get points knocked off at review.