Manic Miner 360

[The Beans]

Manic Miner must have sold ok on XBLIG. Jet Set Willy is in peer review.

[sscott]

Manic Miner must have sold ok on XBLIG. Jet Set Willy is in peer review.

Well, I bought it. It is what it is, I thought 240 pts was OK even though everyone and his dog can emulate it of course.

[r0jaws]

I've downloaded the demo to give it a try, with this and JetPac, I can see myself spending some more time on there.
Although TBH, I wasn't all that enamoured with the re-made jetpac it just seemed too "busy" for me. I'm going to have to give it another go now, buy it and have a thrash on the original presentation.

[markopoloman]

I bought it too - and JSW in the pipeline Happy me will play more on the eggbox video streaming machine!

[DPrinny]

Is it anything like Jet Set Willy online?

A console port of that would be great

[StickHead]

Is it anything like Jet Set Willy online?

A console port of that would be great

Good shout Prinny! Elite need to have a little chat with Ovine to get this is a game mode on the XBLA version. I would be all over that like a rash!

Also, everyone's moaning about paying £2 for one of the finest examples of 2D platforming gaming? Man we've come a long way, baby. People pay 20 times that for the latest brainless mainstream blockbuster 'smash'. After multiple disappointments, I'm seriously considering giving up on the mainstream game industry and sticking with indie games. More interesting games with an intelligent and non-conformist design, and better value. Better stop there before this turns into an off-topic rant.

I'll chuck £2 at this if only to encourage more of the same.

[DPrinny]

The rest of the Willy games............

Theres lots of dicks on 360 time for more Willys

[The Beans]

Also, everyone's moaning about paying £2 for one of the finest examples of 2D platforming gaming? Man we've come a long way, baby. People pay 20 times that for the latest brainless mainstream blockbuster 'smash'. After multiple disappointments, I'm seriously considering giving up on the mainstream game industry and sticking with indie games. More interesting games with an intelligent and non-conformist design, and better value. Better stop there before this turns into an off-topic rant.

I'll chuck £2 at this if only to encourage more of the same.

Nice one.
There are Spectrum games I'd spend a lot more money than £2 on if they were on XBLIG. Unfortunately Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy aren't on that list. The sad fact is that although people pay 20 times more for a brainless mainstream blockbuster it's also possible to pay 3 times less for indie games on XBLIG that are far better than Jet Set Willy (which isn't one of the finest examples of 2D platforming for me, it's just one of the first examples of 2D platforming) and even possible to spend less than that amount on many a fine indie game on Steam. Which is what I usually do.
I'm glad both the Miner Willy games are getting some support from good people like yourself though. Maybe it will lead to some really good retro games getting the XBLIG treatment.

[StickHead]

it's also possible to pay 3 times less for indie games on XBLIG that are far better than Jet Set Willy

That's a fair shout. I can't believe some of the games I've bought for around 60p. I feel like I've robbed the poor developer of Shoot 1Up. When I find time to play them properly, I'll also be mugging the developers of Breath of Death and Call of Cthulu.

If I were responsible for MM 360, I would release it for 80MSP. Not because I believe that is its true value, but because I have seen what a similar price point can achieve on iOS's App Store. It's such a trivial amount of money that people don't seem to think twice before spending it, even if they are not going to spend much time playing it. For me, if it's over a quid, it's out of impulse buy territory and into "but do I really need it" territory.

[r0jaws]

Well, after playing it for a little this evening I decided to buy it anyway. The little extras do it for me, and with cheat mode on, I can get a little further than I ever used to be able too. Still haven't bought JetPac though. Much as I enjoyed the original, and would like to play it on my 360, 400 points seems a little steep just for that. I'm still not enamoured of the remake enough, yet.

[JazzFunk]

Just think, if they release JSW at 80pts, then we'll ALL be buying it...

(**Develops insanely luminescent metaphysical "Eureka!" lightbulb above head and passes it on to the port-ers of XBLIG Manic Miner**)

[DPrinny]

Nar if its Jet set Willy online it will be time to post that Fry picture

[Darran@Retro Gamer]

The thing with certain people if it's not free it's too expensive... I could pirate that game for free so why should I pay 240 for it!!

And that's the sad thing. Far too many people are used to not paying for stuff they play, so even (roughly) £1.50 for one of the Spectrum's best platformers is too expensive. Stupid really, but that's what emulation has done.

[The Beans]

The thing with certain people if it's not free it's too expensive... I could pirate that game for free so why should I pay 240 for it!!

And that's the sad thing. Far too many people are used to not paying for stuff they play, so even (roughly) £1.50 for one of the Spectrum's best platformers is too expensive. Stupid really, but that's what emulation has done.

While there's generally an element of truth in that overall (probably), I don't think that's the case on XBLIG. It's simply that the 80pt price point exists and many very good games have been released at that price and anything higher is seen as asking too much. That goes for all games on there at 240pts, not just classic retro games. People buy in a contextual market.

I'm not liking the vibe that we should apparently all buy this game whatever the price, whether we want it or not, just because it's a retro classic.

[slacey1070]

The thing with certain people if it's not free it's too expensive... I could pirate that game for free so why should I pay 240 for it!!

And that's the sad thing. Far too many people are used to not paying for stuff they play, so even (roughly) £1.50 for one of the Spectrum's best platformers is too expensive. Stupid really, but that's what emulation has done.

You're missing the point Darran. Better games are available at 80MSP, which support independent developers who are producing now. It may only be £1.50, but its still expensive when measured against other titles out there. People don't generally buy on sentiment alone.

And almost everyone on here will have played this title on one system or another....

So, yes, £1.50 for a newspaper I've already read IS too much.