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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby stvd on Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:00 pm

Spector wrote:then maybe it's the same club, but otherwise, not in my eyes.


Nor mine. In fact we've been having discussions at work on how we should refer to them.
Most of which would be censored on this forum!

I think they should lose all identities from the old club: badge, logos, etc.
I don't even think they should be allowed to use the word Rangers.
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby boggyb68 on Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:56 pm

As a Celtic fan, I am not gloating, it has ruined the SPL, the competition has been removed so my interest is rapidly dropping to zero.. :(

But at least I have Queen Of The South to rely on providing my Scottish footie excitement... Up the Queens.. :)

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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby Liamh1982 on Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:12 pm

stvd wrote:
Spector wrote:then maybe it's the same club, but otherwise, not in my eyes.


Nor mine. In fact we've been having discussions at work on how we should refer to them.
Most of which would be censored on this forum!

I think they should lose all identities from the old club: badge, logos, etc.
I don't even think they should be allowed to use the word Rangers.

Should they be allowed to wear blue?
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby stvd on Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:36 pm

Liamh1982 wrote:
stvd wrote:
Spector wrote:then maybe it's the same club, but otherwise, not in my eyes.


Nor mine. In fact we've been having discussions at work on how we should refer to them.
Most of which would be censored on this forum!

I think they should lose all identities from the old club: badge, logos, etc.
I don't even think they should be allowed to use the word Rangers.

Should they be allowed to wear blue?



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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby nakamura on Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:53 pm

Surely fans should still support the club regardless of what has happened?
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby The Laird on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:38 pm

stvd wrote:No! Brown. :D


With a pink away kit!!!
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby Liamh1982 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:08 am

They can borrow Liverpool's third kit if they want - purple with orange trim. What were Warrior's designers on?
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby Elgin_McQueen on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:20 pm

nakamura wrote:Surely fans should still support the club regardless of what has happened?


Don't know personally of anyone who's ditched them.

Something about the way this works suggests we're still technically the old club with the history etc, as surely if we're a new club that's bought over the property of old Rangers and have simply called ourselves a similar name then the penalties (Transfer embargo etc) would have no relevance. As the club is being punished in this manner there must still be a connection to the old club.
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby Spector on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:45 pm

Elgin_McQueen wrote:
nakamura wrote:Surely fans should still support the club regardless of what has happened?


Don't know personally of anyone who's ditched them.

Something about the way this works suggests we're still technically the old club with the history etc, as surely if we're a new club that's bought over the property of old Rangers and have simply called ourselves a similar name then the penalties (Transfer embargo etc) would have no relevance. As the club is being punished in this manner there must still be a connection to the old club.


If the transfer embargo is carried over then I agree that suggests a connection, but if the SFA just drop it and let this new team start in Div 3 like any new team then it's not really the old Rangers for me.
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby Liamh1982 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:19 am

Charles Green has apparently agreed to the embargo - it doesn't actually start until the 1st September so there is an opportunity to rebuild the squad.
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby Elgin_McQueen on Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:00 pm

Biggest problem just now seems to be that the SPL are being told any TV deal without including Rangers will suck so they want the SFA to hand over Rangers' media rights. Getting petty now.
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby merman on Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:46 pm

The harshest penalty of all could be yet to come - the SFA is considering removing all of the titles won by Rangers in the last ten years from the record books.
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby Elgin_McQueen on Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:53 pm

merman wrote:The harshest penalty of all could be yet to come - the SFA is considering removing all of the titles won by Rangers in the last ten years from the record books.


Which is a bit strange since the whole scenario they're in at the mo has nothing to do with the "side-contract" business and is 100% to do with the fact they haven't paid tax in the last 12 months.
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby merman on Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:30 pm

Elgin_McQueen wrote:
merman wrote:The harshest penalty of all could be yet to come - the SFA is considering removing all of the titles won by Rangers in the last ten years from the record books.


Which is a bit strange since the whole scenario they're in at the mo has nothing to do with the "side-contract" business and is 100% to do with the fact they haven't paid tax in the last 12 months.


The allegation is that Rangers were not paying tax due on players and other employees for years - therefore, the logic goes, that the players were not properly registered and legal to play.
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Re: Rangers - Scottish Division 3

Postby stvd on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:27 am

merman wrote:The harshest penalty of all could be yet to come - the SFA is considering removing all of the titles won by Rangers in the last ten years from the record books.


Yes, that's a bit confusing (the 10 years thing) as the tax avoidance shenanigans have probably been going
on since david murray took over. So that should be any titles over the last 20+ years.
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