felgekarp wrote:Pardon my ignorance on this issue but how then can people get away with manufacturing equipment that allows you to do everything that's been mentioned previously?, surely somebody somewhere is turning a blind eye then.
Oh they do turn a blind eye. The BPI for instance has specifically said they would never sue someone for mp3ing a CD (which they would have to do, it's a civil matter not a criminal one, don't confuse something being illegal with it being a crime).
But if you're using the law as your one true guide, which several people have suggested is the only real metric in this thread, then you still can't do those things.
The thing is why do they market a CD/DVD burner? why market a VHS recorder and not a player?
For backing up your own data and your home movies respectively.
How do sky get round the recording issue with sky+ ?
They're the broadcaster and thus the copyright holder of that transmission. If they allow it, it's not illegal anymore. That said, they DO stop you recording certain programs on Sky+ I believe and limit the amount of time you can keep them (someone with sky correct me on this)
All these "It's illegal" ones have the fairly obvious unspoken suffix "without permission".
I still want to know why people think they have a right to have anything at all that they feel like having.
Simply they feel that an action which hurts no-one is an action no-one should be against.
You could use that against any law. Why do black people think they have a right to sit at the front of a bus. Why do I have the right to 1 day off a week? Why do I have the right to have kids? Why do I have the right to do just about anything that was illegal at one stage or another?
So tell me Dudley :
Have you EVER done anything piracy related as stipulated in your post??
Copied something off the TV onto a VHS tape?
Copied a game? Or at least own a copied game??
Or anything else that would be considered illegal?
I look forward to your HONEST answer
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
You're asking the wrong person, either of the Sir Clives or will would be a better bet. I think it's pretty clear from my posts that I have.
However, in the last month I've bought 3 CDs, 3 DVDs, Full Auto on 360 ,Command and Conquer 3 on PC and Paperboy, Boom Boom Rocket and Jetpac on XBLA. Any piracy I may or may not do is almost certainly not adversely affecting my purchases.
Hell, read the thread, there's a point where piracy would have INCREASED my legal media spend if only the 2 CDs in question didn't have lovely Sony butchered copy protection on them.
The average game player is 33 years old.
The average age of the most frequent game buyer is 38 years old. 92 percent of computer game buyers and 80 percent of console game buyers are over the age of 18
(Source : ESA)